Shameful

Jun. 21st, 2012 11:09 pm
[identity profile] dreadfulpenny00.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therightfangirl
During today's press briefing at the White House regarding Obama's refusal to disclose documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, Jake Tapper posed a question to WH Press Secretary Jay Carney and his response (in my opinion) was gut-wrenching.

Q Jay, just one last question. The family of Brian Terry, the slain Border Patrol agent at whose murder scene at least two of these guns were found, they disagree with your characterization about these investigations. They say that the Attorney General’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth. That’s a statement from the Terry family lawyer.

MR. CARNEY: Look, we absolutely agree with the need to find out the truth about why Fast and Furious happened, why the tactic that, again, was employed in the previous administration in different operations and was stopped by this Attorney General -- why it came about. And that’s why the Attorney General referred it to the Inspector General. That is why we have provided Congress every document that pertains to the operation itself that is at issue here when you talk about the family that you referred to. And --

Q The Terry family.

MR. CARNEY: The Terry family. And that is separate from an attempt by members of Congress, Republican members of Congress, to try to score political points -- as Senator Grassley referred to his desire for a “political scalp” -- that is separate from trying to find out the truth about what happened in this operation, which this administration has been pursuing since the Attorney General discovered it.
"The family that you referred to" - because, let's face it, the Obama administration doesn't even care. Not a single person is bothered by the fact that they're trying to spin this and once again pin blame on the Bush administration (or other previous administrations) and they fail to remember, as Carney so perfectly proved, that a U.S. citizen (and more than one, to be honest) died at the hands of Mexican drug runners using guns put in their hands by the U.S. government. Not Holder. Not Obama. Not Carney. There's just no excuse for this bull!

OT: does this comm have a link on Facebook?

Date: 2012-06-22 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com
And/or are there any communities like this on Facebook that ppl here would rec?

thx, and pls pardon my interruption.

Date: 2012-06-22 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelincihutan.livejournal.com
It's worth pointing out, and this is important, that Operation Wide Receiver, the "gunwalking" operation carried out under Bush, was carried out with the active consent and cooperation of the Mexican government. Nor did that ever get anybody killed because the ATF didn't just take serial numbers in that scenario, but closely, physically, followed the guns in question.

Basically, this is yet another apples-to-oranges comparison. I'm not saying this was a good tactic under Bush (the "why I don't like Bush very much" lay is best saved for another time, though), but the situations are fundamentally and substantially incomparable.
Edited Date: 2012-06-22 03:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-22 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
the situations are fundamentally and substantially incomparable.

You're right. Unfortunately, the administration's banking on most people being ignorant of this fact so they can hop on the "We Hate Bush" bandwagon.

Date: 2012-06-22 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelincihutan.livejournal.com
I know, but it's so infuriating. Because Brian Terry is just one name on a long list of people--over three hundred Mexican citizens--who have been killed by the guns Holder gave to drug cartels. And the response of those responsible for all that death is, "Bush did it too!"

No. No, dammit, he didn't. Not like this and not with people turning up violently dead right, left, and center.

Date: 2012-06-23 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
Isn't that this administration's default mantra, though? "Bush did it!...It's all Bush's fault for _________ (fill in the blank)!...Bush left this mess and now I gotta clean it up!"

I don't know what's scarier: how this administration has committed atrocities and have covered up the blood on their hands....or the people who continue to believe this man's lies.

Date: 2012-06-22 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muses-circle.livejournal.com
Carney is a soulless bastard. Look into his eyes and you'll see the truth of that. He is literally Obama's mouthpiece: everything that comes out of Carney's mouth is exactly what Obama thinks/believes.

The administration doesn't want to find the truth. Obama wouldn't have tried to shield Holder otherwise. Nor do they care about the Terry family...or the American people, come to that. Here's yet another "cover it up and blame Bush/Congress/Republicans/Capitalism for all this country's woes" scheme Obama is using to ensure he wins in November.

God help us if he does.

Date: 2012-06-22 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mprice.livejournal.com
Something that keeps getting overlooked, and that really needs to be front and center, is that $10 million was allocated to Project Gunwalker in Obama's Stimulus bill. (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/30/project-gunrunner-obamas-stimulus-funded-border-nightmare/)

This crap sandwich was passed by the Dem held Congress and signed into law at the very beginning of Obama's administration. What I want to know is, Who put it in the bill?

This is scandal is going to make Watergate look like a cake walk when the shit hits the fan. All the legal blogs I've read say that Executive Privilege doesn't apply here and will very likely be tossed out by a judge. It also probably won't happen until after the election. Hopefully we'll have a new Attorney General by then.

Date: 2012-06-22 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessm78.livejournal.com
These people have no shame. They're truly disgusting. :(

And I love how they try to pin the blame on other administrations, just like they're doing with the crappy economy. They're incapable of claiming responsibility for their actions. I've known narcissists and this is classic narcissism.

Date: 2012-06-22 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-weezing.livejournal.com
Tamara Holder on Hannity, two nights ago, basically said Terry was that "the guy who died, a year ago, or something." Fortunately, Michelle Malkin tears her apart in every possible way.

http :// www.therightscoop.com/michelle-malkin-refuses-to-let-tamara-holder-lie-about-contempt-vote/

"The guy who died..."

I.... Arrrgh! Why is this woman always so stuck on stupid?!

(Yeah, I know. She's a liberal, but no one can be so... Oh, hell, this is the party that wanted Pelosi as Speaker, so, yeah, they are stupid.)

Okay, liberals, you can call me sexist or uncivil, now.
Edited Date: 2012-06-22 07:04 pm (UTC)

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