MOD POST: Dear Liberal Members

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When I spotted the 100+ comments on the post about the "Ground Zero Mosque", I figured I should peek in there. Perhaps unsurprisingly, I saw that it has grown to such a size because of a few non-right-wing characters who think that this is debate.

THIS COMM IS NOT debate. NOR IS IT conservatism. OR ANY OTHER REGULAR POLITICAL COMM.

This comm was created as a place where right-wing fanfolks could talk politics and not be forced to listen to left-wing yammering, as we have have to do practically everywhere else in fandom. It is not meant to encourage debate between the sides. I hesitate to call it a "safe space", but people don't join this comm to get the kind of arguments that you are providing in that post (and perhaps others of which I am unaware).

I'm not calling you trolls, and I am not (at this time) banning anyone. We do have open membership, and I know that there are less-incendiary liberals watching who either just want to laugh quietly to themselves or honestly want to understand our POVs.

But I want it clear that if you have come to "correct" our posters, "enlighten" us to facts, or otherwise engage us in debate, you are not welcome. (This goes doubly for those who I see are members of a comm whose purpose seems to be to bitch about right-wingers. Do your bitching there, don't bring it here.)

There are plenty of other places where your debate is welcome, and the mods here at TRF respectfully ask that you keep it there and out of this comm. The vast majority of us are right-wing here and we have enough difference in opinion on issues to keep things lively enough without having to defend our positions to the left-wing.

Thank you.

ETA: I know at some point in the history of this comm, there was verbiage similar to this in spirit in the comm's userinfo. At some point it was removed, but this comm was never not intended to be this kind of place. I have added some of this back to the post to make that more clear. If you came here genuinely under the impression that good-natured debate was welcome, I hope you will respect this clarification.

ETA 2: And if you're not even a member and you come in a week later to bitch about the purpose of this comm, you're banned. Simple as that.

Comments

[ellie-kay.livejournal.com]

I've figured there are moles hanging about and really, I don't care for that at all. It's cowardly, immature, and lame. It's designed to not only discourage people from speaking out here, it's designed to allow people to smear you elsewhere out of context, where you can't even defend yourself.

I'm responding late here because I just recently joined this community again (been away for quite a few months) and saw the new mod post. The reason I left here is because I made a post a while back regarding running for some type of office in the future and how I would go about doing that...to which they ran back to their crap-talking community and started comparing me to Sarah Palin (which really isn't all that bad) but then started making some nasty comments to me elsewhere, both on my personal journal and in other communities. At that point I did a HUGE friends-list cleanup as well as leaving certain communities, just because I know some of these people know my full name and most likely where I live, and I started honestly becoming concerned for my safety. I didn't know where these people were, what posts on which communities they were seeing and bringing back to the hive to dissect. It's a little scary if you think about it.

I'm over it now, especially as I now know the true personal identities of a couple of these trolls as well, so I feel I'm more on even ground with them. I was sad to come back to this community and one of the first posts I read was basically a re-creation of the trash-talking that tends to happen in conservatism. What a way to assure me I can feel safe from this snark and overall bullying (for lack of a better term) of these jerks.

Thnaks for the recent post. Almost everyone you listed is someone I've had bad dealings with in the past. I can't understand how these jerks live with themselves sometimes.