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Though raising an infant has been challenging, Bristol has the unconditional love and support of her family — especially her mother, Sarah Palin. After all, no one can better understand the complicated decision to have a baby under difficult circumstances. Just a year earlier, at the age of 44, Sarah carried her son Trig to term, even though she was told during a sonogram that he would be born with Down syndrome. Now, the mother and daughter are sharing a unique experience— raising baby boys together under the same roof.
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Date: 2010-01-14 07:39 pm (UTC)What's actually kind of funny is, awhile back, I was watching The View. They were discussing "DIY Childbirth" - or Unassisted Childbirth (UC), which is giving birth with no professional medical attendants present, usually at home. It's something I support, and I know several people who have done it, and say it's the most empowering thing EVER. Anyway - the hosts of The View were HORRIFIED, and kept saying that they didn't think ANY woman should be "allowed" to do this, and they brought up the issue of safety for the baby, and I THINK someone said that women who do this should be prosecuted for child neglect, etc.
IF they don't believe that a fetus is a baby UNTIL it's born, and all the "DIY Childbirth" stuff occurs BEFORE the baby is born, so UNTIL the baby is born and UP TO AND INCLUDING the method of childbirth then... how do you reconcile that with MY BODY MY CHOICE? If it's MY body, and MY choice, then it's MY choice to give birth the way I want to, and you don't have any right to tell me otherwise.
So STFU, Joy Behar & Co.
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Date: 2010-01-14 08:21 pm (UTC)Unassisted Childbirth isn't such a bad thing to learn, in my opinion. For emergencies, it's actually a pretty damn SMART thing to know about!
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Date: 2010-01-14 10:28 pm (UTC)UC is phenomenal. I plan to have either a midwife-assisted homebirth or a UC for my next baby (whenever that happens, as I'm unmarried). It just so happens that my best friend is an EMT, so I told her, "You're going to be at my birth anyway because you're my best friend, so just make sure you have your kit and an oxygen tank." (I passed out during my son's birth and required oxygen - nothing serious, I just tend to hold my breath through pain and my birth was unmedicated, so - yeah. Hold breath long enough = pass out.)
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Date: 2010-01-14 10:02 pm (UTC)This. 1,000,000x over.
Signed,
~The only straight male watching The View
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Date: 2010-01-14 10:29 pm (UTC)See comment above for details.
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Date: 2010-01-15 06:34 am (UTC)But that's not my main point here.
I read this and couldn't believe these women would have such an attitude, and for the reasons you've stated. Women shouldn't be ALLOWED to do this? And they should be prosecuted if they do?
And this from the "pro choice" crowd? And since when do they care about the baby? They have no problem tearing it to pieces. After all, isn't it just a piece of flesh until it's... well, I'm not even sure WHEN exactly they consider it a baby. After it's fully outside the mother? After the cord is cut? When the kid's 18 and no longer needing financial support? Who knows.
Their attitude makes no sense at all, especially within their own worldview.
It makes my head hurt.
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Date: 2010-01-15 08:57 pm (UTC)One of my dear friends, in 2008, had her baby at her home. It was her fifth birth, and she was 28. Her husband was present, as was their son, who was two at the time. (Her three older children live with their father - nasty custody battle between two countries, but I digress.) She labored for about three hours and gave birth to an eleven-pound baby boy. No doctor screaming for a C-section. No nurse making her lie on her back. No bright hospital lights and sterile hospital room. Peace, quiet, and love. Not ideal for everybody, of course, but for those who have studied and educated themselves and know first-aid and infant CPR etc in the event of any complications, for those who are not high-risk, for those who are aware of their limitations and will consent to travel to a nearby hospital when complications present, it's not a bad thing. It's how I'll be having my next child.
The rest of your point... yeah, that was pretty much MY point. It's really nice being able to turn someone's argument against them. I keep saying that if I ever marry someone who is even slightly pro-choice, I'll be more than happy to shove the MY BODY MY CHOICE! argument back in their face when it comes to dictating how and where I give birth. You know, when the whole I'M PUSHING A WATERMELON OUT A HOLE THE SIZE OF A GRAPE AND I'M GONNA BE THE ONE WHO CALLS THE SHOTS HERE! argument doesn't fly.
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Date: 2010-01-15 09:09 pm (UTC)::feels woozy::
I'm all for that more natural approach. Of course, I am also thankful for technology and medical advances, but it does seem the modern world has made childbirth out to be some kind of abnormal condition, instead of the natural event that it is.
11 pounds. Meep.
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Date: 2010-01-16 05:56 am (UTC)response to deleted comment
Date: 2010-01-16 06:02 am (UTC)So, speaking from experience as well as a few years of volunteering with crisis pregnancy work as well as being a mentor for young(er) mothers, as well as being a hardcore liberal until the experience of motherhood, when I finally grew up and got a little less selfish and a little more mature - that's why I say what I say, and if you want to disagree with me...
You want to talk about rights? Respect my RIGHT to an OPINION. I'm not forcing my opinion on you right now, so can it.
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Date: 2010-01-16 06:26 am (UTC)Well that's unfortunate that none of the pro-choice people you know responded positively. The only thing I can really compare it to it my own experience's. I come from a somewhat stereotypical Hispanic family and most of the women in the family had their first child at young ages, and the great majority have thankfully gotten as much as support as was needed to help them. We have also possibly had relatives who have had abortions.
The vast majority of women in my family are also pro-choice. All of them have not regretted having their children, and they also don't consider it their place to tell all women what to do in their own situation.
If it was my post you were responding to, how did I disrespect your right to an opinion? I was merely asking you a question. As someone who is pro-choice I support women making the choice that is right for them, and only have a problem when people want to take that choice away.