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Obama Misstates Number of Uninsured Americans - August 17, 2009
According to the latest available data from the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 35.920 million uninsured U.S. citizens and 9.737 million uninsured foreign nationals residing in the United States. Counting the uninsured foreign nationals, that makes a total of 45.657 million�or "nearly 46 million"-- uninsured people in the United States. But you cannot say, as President Obama has, that there are "nearly 46 million Americans who don't have health insurance coverage" or that "46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage" unless you count 9.737 million foreign nationals as "Americans" and "fellow citizens." CNSNews

White House Open To Non-Profit Health Care Co-ops - August 17, 2009
Under a proposal by Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, consumer-owned nonprofit cooperatives would sell insurance in competition with private industry, not unlike the way electric and agriculture co-ops operate. With $3 billion to $4 billion in initial support from the government, the co-ops would operate under a national structure with state affiliates, but independent of the government. They would be required to maintain the type of financial reserves that private companies are required to keep in case of unexpectedly high claims. AP

Date: 2009-08-20 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilliew.livejournal.com
I've heard that that that total of uninsured is a misnomer as well, as many of those "uninsured" are people who actually don't want insurance. Additionally, the number includes anyone in the past year who has gone without insurance for a period of time, ex. if you are changing jobs.

I have misgivings about nonprofit co-ops. The government would still bail them out if needed (ala Fannie Mae). It looks like they are trying put forth proposals that look good on paper in order to get something done.

Date: 2009-08-20 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southernred2.livejournal.com
Some people who are former military don't have insurance because they use the VA.

I also think the co-ops are just the camel's nose in the tent. They can always change them later.

Date: 2009-08-20 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izuko.livejournal.com
Some people who are former military don't have insurance because they use the VA.

Speaking as someone who is former ex-Navy, that almost makes Obama's point for him. Part of the reason I went back is that Navy care beats the VA.

Even if I do have to pay out-of-pocket for orthotics (thanks, TRICARE).

Date: 2009-08-20 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southernred2.livejournal.com
I'm glad to get your input because a friend is raving about his VA care for a serious problem and wants my former Marine husband to hurry and sign up. We've only heard bad things before now but this guy says all his buddies love it. I'm puzzled because he's a usually very reliable source for good info.

Date: 2009-08-20 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izuko.livejournal.com
The VA can vary from point to point. This guy may have been near a hospital run by someone who cares. But I'd still recommend your husband stick with private care that can be pressured into doing the right thing.

Date: 2009-08-20 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] southernred2.livejournal.com
Thanks. My friend is in Kentucky. And hubby definitely won't give up our private insurance.

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