He wnats answers, dangit!!1....

[regalpewter.livejournal.com]

I see that a piece written by oblivion1970 is getting reposted around the net as a reasoned response to the folks who oppose HR3200.
You can read his diatribe here and respond if you wish but please only in a calm reasoned manner, After all you'll be in his living room.

YIS,
WRI

Well, since this self appointed pundit cannot stand dissent, I will answer him here.
Do you feel better after screaming all that?
First, I have never described The 44th President of The United States in that fashion, and consider it beyond rude, I do not know what you attempt to accomplish by assuming that anyone opposed to basically taking over nearly 18% of our nation's economy is a racist. I am sorry but it a false arguement.
As far as looking back upon this summer; I will remember spending it actually reading the probosals in the bill, HR3200. Something that an Administartion and a Congress who promised transparentcy in government attempted to fast track through the process. I ask, have you done what our elected representitives have said they are too busy to do, which is to read the bill?

As far as federal taxes paid, when compared to the highest spending in the Great Depression which would be the last pre war year 1940, Only 2% of the GDP was taken in income tax, whereas over 10% of the GDP was taken in the last fiscal year. when the total taxes are taken they still fall short of the tax burden that we now face. Cogress's own general accounting office has said that we can look forward to federal tax rates possibly in excess of 60% if the bill is taxed. Also, remember that Medicare, when enacted, spent 9 times the estimated amount it's first year.

As far as a small government, I just want the Federal Gonvernmet to do what is in the Constitution. No More, No Less. Not running a business "deamed too big to fail." Providing incentives for the purchase of automobiles from foreign car companies, while decimating the invrentories of affordable used cars. You know, cars that could be afforded by those with lower incomes.
The examples that you cite above, (aside from the postal service, which is forced to work as a private agency that gives a large amount of it's service free to the congress) are things that are dealt with on a local level or at most a state level. 
Actually, when I am the age that Social Security and Medicare become availiable, it will have long passed the point where the expenditures are greater than the income (BTW, That is supposed to occur next year, according to the GAO) there fore I will be happy to recieve to benefits, if any, generated by a smaller population giving more into the system.

As far as what is happeniing to the American Dream, we must first define the dream, mine is to have the freedom to work hard and enjoy the fruits of my labor, and to be able to give the next generation the tools for their success in education of values and priciples that enabled me to do so.  As far a s maintaining a nuclear arsenal,(which is scheduled to be reduced to around 2000 warheads by 2012) there are still other countries who wish us harm and it is by converting from a strategy of MAD to an SDI type defense that we will protect our citizens.

In short you have failed to do your research or even give a single point of support to your aguments and have failed. Good day to you, Sir.

YIS,
WRI

 

 

Comments

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

That's a reasoned response to us?! Gee, I'd hate to see a nasty one.

[ohinternets.livejournal.com]

I feel you, he lost me at "President N*****." He has no place to say that in that context whatsoever, even "ironically". And the rest is just an incoherent, swear-filled, intellectually void ramble. Why bother responding? He'll probably just cuss us out and accuse us of hating trees or something.

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

and accuse us of hating trees or something.

LOL!!

[ohinternets.livejournal.com]

LOL WELL it would make about as much sense as the rest of it!!

[karmic-serenity.livejournal.com]

All I can saw is wow.

[pastygothchick.livejournal.com]

OT: I love your icon. I love science jokes.

[karmic-serenity.livejournal.com]

Thanks!! :)

[pat-t.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I didn't find it intelligent enough to deserve a response. I love the last paragraph when he says that the government signs our Medicare and Social Security checks. I wonder if he pays taxes. Because if he did he would realize that we sign those checks every time we pay our taxes. Medicare and Social Security taxes come out of our checks. The money they are giving us is our own money that we let them use interest free our entire lives.

Dumb ass! (sorry - I couldn't help it. I had to say it or bust a gut!)

[modernelegance.livejournal.com]

He's so wrong and bitter about things it's really sad...especially since he's not debating about facts but on emotions. The tax rate being higher during the great depression doesn't make it "right" but it also ELONGATED the depression. So in Obama raising taxes to offset his multiple "stimulus packages" and possibly his "healthcare bill" the American people will be spending a fortune on such government programs which will make our economy even worse off.

Sure we complain about the mail (as I am sure liberals do) because guess what it SUCKS! However it sucked even WORSE BEFORE there was market competition from UPS and Fed Ex...guess what THAT IS THE AMERICAN WAY! You get BETTER service where there is a competitive MARKET. He should look at the FACTS about the "success" of government programs compared to what improvements happened when free market programs came involved. Nursing Homes, Government is the worst. Mail Delivery...government is still the worst...and I'm sure you get my point.

btw is it just me or do democrats have filthier mouths than republicans? I mean really...seriously everyone I know who has a potty mouth where the f-word is out every 2 seconds are democrats.

[caromiofic.livejournal.com]

Pretty much. I do know some filthy Repubs, but they can also censor themselves when the situation calls for it.

[pastygothchick.livejournal.com]

You'll look at that stupid teabag hat you were wearing during those protests and wonder what the hell you were thinking as you sit there in front of the TV with your dialysis machine and your oxygen tank, hoping the Daytona 500 will get your mind off of your pain and the horror of realizing you're going to be bankrupted my medical bills - just like half of your neighbors.

I'd like to know why, in his fake dystopian world, half my neighbors and me are going to be bankrupted by his medical bills? Also, somehow in the future dialysis machines are portable, but oxygen still comes in a tank? I obviously don't have pain meds in the future because I resort to the Daytona 500 (whatever that is evidently it's located near my television set) to distract me from my pain.

And, that is why I can't respond directly. I tend to mock.

Of course, I could go for that single payer option and start paying 40% to 50% of my income in taxes (with a healthy boost to the sales tax tossed in for good measure) next year and save myself the ten year wait, but I think I can restrain myself. That's assuming I'd still have my job. I work in the evil medical field.

[tingilya.livejournal.com]

I read through some of that guy's entries and just had to laugh. Typical liberal, only able to use foul language and condescension. It's too easy when dealing with people like that.

His posts get zero or one comments. Nobody's listening to you, dude!

[ga-unicorn.livejournal.com]

I think the most telling thing about his little post is that he has his journal locked so that only "friends" (meaning sycophants) can post comments. Guess he really needs the fawning and stroking of his ego to feel good about himself. (was that mean!?)

[ccr1138.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't dignify that load of bollocks with a reply even if I could.

[brianna-aisling.livejournal.com]

He spews BS like that and we're the bigots? I'm dumbfounded. I'm absolutely dumbfounded. I can't imagine what kind of world you have to live in where not wanting government run medicine is bigotry of the worst kind, but that vileness is acceptable to the point of being passed around the internet as ideal.

Mmmm...at least in the future we'll have access to oxygen tanks, whereas in his future, we'd have to wait six months to get an appointment to get an appointment to determine if we might actually need to have an oxygen tank!

Are you Kidding me?

[shoegirl0531.livejournal.com]

Oblivion 1970 is obviously a child. I, personally, do not have to worry about what's coming down the pike ten years from now, because Obama's "death panel" will have already decided that I have outlived my usefulness. I am a young 55 years old, and I was diagnosed with coronary artery disease when I was 48. My father's legacy to me and my brother. At any rate, Obama will not continue to pay $80 to $100,000 every couple of years to place a stent in my clogged artery. He surely will not pay for coronary by-pass surgery. Forget for one second that I put in 22 years working for the Federal government, and then 12 years as a Registered Nurse. I am not not able to work any longer, so what are they wasting money on me for? So I will be dead and it won't matter.