anyone heard of this movie?

[saiariddle.livejournal.com]

the US vs John Lennon

I watched nearly all the trailer and figured, "Oh well, yeah it's probably going to think John Lennon is a demi-god or whatever..." I'm used to that kind of thinking. People have been deifying him since his death, and I am full aware of his very idealistic notions of peace, but I NEVER thought someone would say what I heard...

Towards the end, some old guy came on and was like,

"John Lennon represented life. Bush and Nixon represent Death."

O.o

And he was serious.


I was so shocked...I mean, first of all...it's silly to think one person can represent life. That was so overdramatic I wanted to laugh, but the next bit...lol the guy was so like, just "Yeah...these people are from the devil. They ARE the devil actually. KILL THEM BASTARDS!"

I mean, WTF??

Course, it is by the same studio who made Farendrama 9/11....

I am a fan of the Lenners...simply because he was a great artist, and I can take that without having to side with his politics, but to think he represents life or like he's some prophet!?! Hell no...

I think I want to see the movie anyway though...But watch the trailer for yourself and assess. What do you think the goal of this movie is?

Comments

[mood7.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAAAA!!! OMG...sniff...that was SO freakin' funny. The Geraldo quote in particular.

Yeah, anyone who smokes that much pot is going to be a bit paranoid and assume that the government is after him. Sure, it's another big conspiracy theory.

Look, I think the point of the film is going to be that, somehow, the American government was responsible for John Lennon's death.

[shaolin.livejournal.com]

Although what Lennon said in 1966 doesn't really offend me, because it was sadly true, for some people, Lennon and other delusional idealists -are- bigger than Jesus.

If "Imagine" is any indication of the extent of his idealism, then well... It's not bad, necessarily, to hope for one world, no boundaries, no religion, everyone equal. But you can't get cynical and angry when the world doesn't go that way, as a lot of baby boomers who never grew up seem to feel these days. It probably never turn into some harmonic love fest; there will always be factions and there will always be war.

That said, I doubt this will be a big draw to theater-goers. It's sad that people are trying to compare Iraq to Vietnam, though.

...I've always been more of a George fan, myself. ;)

[angieohgirl.livejournal.com]

First I have to say I like Paul the best. However Lennon was very much an evil person. What is funny and scary is that most of these people in this movie would love to snuff out most of us conservatives if they had it their way, or at least stick us in camps to keep us quiet.

I read some things on Lennon that were rather telling of his true nature. Some of his hero's and favorite books were kind of off a peaceful road. One of his hero's was satanist, Aleister Crowley.

Plus everyone seems to forget that it is fairly easy for a guy being chauffered around and having a few homes to have candy-coated dreams. He was totally detached from real life and what his rantings and protests would do to our guys who were defending our country and his freedom.

Like you said, his music=good. Personal life=not.

[sabbrielle.livejournal.com]

"However Lennon was very much an evil person."

Evil? Really? That's a very strong word.

[angieohgirl.livejournal.com]

True, evil is probably a bit strong. lol.

However I have to say that he did have a tendency to be able to mold people's opinions. Pretty good for a chauffered, rich guy.

I guess my irritation, like today, is people give way too much attention to musicians and actors. They are entertainers, period.

[saiariddle.livejournal.com]

No, I disagree completely...I don't think he was an evil person. Confused, maybe, but not evil. Even if Aleister Crowley was his "hero."

That is too strong of a word but yes, he was very delusional. In fact I'm not even sure he correctly thought through his words with logic...

I agree the vietnam was horrible; I don't think you can compare the two wars now, though. That seems silly.

But as my German friend said today, "Lennon, being a big rock star, could of course afford being naive. But we cannot."

[angieohgirl.livejournal.com]

As for Lennon feeling Crowley was a hero. I was reading that the reason they had Crowley's image on the cover of Sgt. Pepper album was because the band had on the cover all the people they admired or felt were hero's of theirs. Lennon liked Crowley.

The mystifying thing to me is to see them also put Bush in as evil against Lennon? Bush wasn't even in politics I believe when Lennon was around.

[saiariddle.livejournal.com]

I think they must view Bush as a reincarnation of Nixon, then...;-)

[angieohgirl.livejournal.com]

Ok, I have to admit to a general distaste for Lennon just because you hear that song of his during any war that a Republican president is in office for. I never heard that song during the Clinton reign but as soon as Bush hit the white house all of a sudden 'Give peace a chance' is back out. It just irritates me. Gets old real fast.

Kind of goes along with the general hypocrisy of the liberal-left.

Besides I still love McCartney and Wings. :

[saiariddle.livejournal.com]

Eh...I have a roommate who has very volitale opinions of McCartney that aren't completely unjustified, when I listen to her side of the situation.

But it still IRKS the heck out of me when people actually believe that they can implement Lennon's ideas. You can't. Just like Marx's ideas, are really really good ideas...and are nice to think about and strive for, but you can never really implement them well...because of what people are...

[angieohgirl.livejournal.com]

Actually McCartney never was doing that good in personal life either. I think people lost track at how many times he got busted with drugs of some sort. However I loved the music and songs of Wings. They just had a tendency to make me feel good and musically I though were fun to listen to.

You are correct about the Marx and Lennon ideas thing. Its a very 'idealistic' thing to think about it. Just doesn't work in reality. Kind of like Cuba. There is the Hollywood version of Cuba and then there is the real Cuba.

[saiariddle.livejournal.com]

just so we're clear, Marx would never have been a communist. They're two completely different things. Communism is a misapplication of some of Marx's ideas...much like Hitler misused some of Martin Luther's writings...

[neytaritook.livejournal.com]

Did he ever say "Aleister Crowley is my hero"? Crowley was an interesting man. Maybe Lennon was just intrigued by him?

I wouldn't even say that Crowley was evil. Satanism is pretty much just glorified atheism and self-deification.

[neytaritook.livejournal.com]

And this is why I like Ringo :-D ;-)