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[coldblossom.livejournal.com]

So liberals are complaining about Paul Ryan's family having used government benefits when he was a child and (apparently?) later on to get him through college. What, if anything, has Ryan said about this? All the liberals I know are hitting him for being a hypocrite and I'd like to know how he feels about it.

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[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

I hadn't heard this yet. Thanks for the warning.

I also think Breitbart's response to this whining would have been...

SO?

[brendala.livejournal.com]

I hadn't heard of this yet. But it's pretty low for anyone to comment on stuff that Ryan's PARENTS did when he himself was just a CHILD! Seriously, if accusing his parents of hypocrisy is the best the left can dig up on Ryan, than I think it's clear Romney made the right choice!

[jenny-wildcat.livejournal.com]

I hadn't heard about this either but I'm pretty sure if asked about it, Ryan will turn it around back to the economy just like he did in the 60 Minutes interview when ol' Schief asked about releasing tax returns or some other such nonsense.

(Now that I think about it, I'm hoping someone does bring it up in an interview so Ryan can go all "Seriously?" again. It's nice to finally have a guy on our side who doesn't get defensive and stuttery when the media asks trip-up questions).

[neemarita.livejournal.com]

Because if people need it, then they use it, and stop using it when they get out of the situation. It's called responsibility. Liberals do not understand this and think everyone should live off welfare. It is there to help you get back on your feet, not to be used the rest of your life...

[ford-prefect42.livejournal.com]

It's a safety net, not a hammock.

[brendala.livejournal.com]

THIS! I've been told that being conservative makes me a hypocrite because my family used to be on Welfare.

Liberals don't get that conservatives are OK with the CONCEPT of Welfare. We just hate seeing it abused. When my family applied for it, the Welfare person flat out told my mother that she should divorce my dad because unmarried mothers get more money. My parents refused; but I'm sure a lot of other Welfare applicants thought it was a good idea.

Also, when I worked for FEMA, I saw all the ways people game the system for more aid money. And none of my superiors gave a damn about it.


The problem is that people no longer have a sense of shame when it comes to sucking on government titty. Nor do people feel that making it on your own is something to be proud of.

[rainynights.livejournal.com]

Our gov't has all but made it next to impossible to not use help when it comes to going back to school. If the gov't would stop paying the colleges ridiculous prices they would be forced to lower prices to be more affordable. You have these colleges hiring 4 star chefs, building spas and incredible gyms that drive up prices. Once you are on the gov't teet it's hard to get off.

[lilliew.livejournal.com]

What they don't understand is even most conservatives have no issue with government assistance when it's truly needed. We're not the heartless cold meanies they believe we are. We only believe that it shouldn't become your dependency if and when you really can get out there and get a job (i.e. not disabled) and improve your lot in life and not need the assistance long term. The way its set up right now, there's not alot of incentive to do that and it is cascading to become worse and worse as more people become dependent on it and thus is also bankrupting our nation and economy as a result.

The key thing is that Ryan and his family got beyond it and became successful. That's how it's supposed to work.

[kelincihutan.livejournal.com]

It is entirely possible that this is why he dislikes entitlement programs and wants to cut them from the budget. I know my experience with student loans has been an absolute nightmare that is, in some ways, still ongoing. It certainly doesn't incline me to thinking they are anything we should keep in the national budget on the current scale.

[gotsparkly.livejournal.com]

I don't see a problem with using government assistance when you really need it. A safety net is one thing - using it as a hammock is quite another.

Also, using welfare dollars for booze / smokes / call girls / etc. like some people are doing is just plain ... no. Those are vices, not necessities. Not to say that nobody should have vices, but when the vices outweigh the necessities, you're an addict as surely as if you bought crack.

Another point: to me, the question of entitlements and government dependence comes down to this one dichotomy: "BUT WE NEED IT!" versus "But can we afford it?" We've stopped thinking about it in terms of "can we afford it?" and that is what is killing us. "But European countries do it!" Yes, and look at where they are. There but for the grace of good fiscal sense go we. If an individual household can ask that question, why can't the federal government?

Stop the merry-go-round, I wanna get off. 9.9

[sekhmetsat.livejournal.com]

And Ryan's family were AMERICAN CITIZENS who only used it BECAUSE THEY HAD TO. Personally, if you cut off the immigrants and illegals from the welfare tit, welfare shrinks 66%....And by welfare I mean WIC, Section 8, food stamps(SNAP), TANF(cash benefits) and SSI(disability).

[ladyrogue79.livejournal.com]

See, I never understood why liberals think we just want these benefits gone. My husband and I use food stamps because he's still in school working on his bachelors/masters and I'm in the process of finding a job after finishing my teaching license. Once we have a steady income? We're getting rid of them. Because then we can take care of ourselves. Liberals, take note: this is called RESPONSIBILITY.