While we're on that topic....

[ladyrogue79.livejournal.com]

I had recently heard about a film that Lindsey Ellis of That Guy with the Glasses fame had done about her own experience with abortion. It mainly talks about how this is more than just a political topic and I think that that's something a lot of liberals don't understand. She mentions how when she told one of her friends about her abortion, he had the mentality of 'way to exercise your rights!" and she merely responded that this wasn't something she was proud of. And that's why, though I tend more towards the 'I wouldn't do it but I could care less what you do' school of thought, I do get really irritated with all those people who keep proudly stating that they're pro-choice. All they see is a political issue. But do they actually think about the people who actually do this? How they might be feeling? If they ever regret it, which I've heard some women do. And one of NC's friends talks about how she thinks about abortion: that your solving a problem, curing a "disease". And I find that true of many of my pro-choice friends, you're just taking care of a problem. This is what I have the biggest problem with. They make it out to be no big deal, but it is. It is a big deal and just like everything else in life, there are consequences to one's choices. I also wonder how pro-choicers treat women who have had abortions and regret it. Do they actually try and help with the grieving and healing process? Or do they just tell them to get over it because it was just "a group of cells".


...sorry, been wanting to get that off my chest for a while.

Comments

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

I also wonder how pro-choicers treat women who have had abortions and regret it. Do they actually try and help with the grieving and healing process? Or do they just tell them to get over it because it was just "a group of cells".

We never hear about those women, do we? And why should we, from PP and the pro-abortion side? It's "just a group of cells", as you say, so what's there to be upset about?

The very fact that women often do regret it and suffer trauma from it for the rest of their lives puts to rest the nonsense that it's just a group of cells.

[rivetspoon.livejournal.com]

The very fact that women often do regret it and suffer trauma from it for the rest of their lives puts to rest the nonsense that it's just a group of cells.

Actually it doesn't. It just shows that women have an emotional attachment to that clump of cells. I have a hard time throwing away a stuffed animal I've had for years (I have empathy for it); that doesn't make it any less of an inanimate object.

What that fact does say is that abortions should not be taken lightly because they do take a huge toll on the would-be mother, both emotionally and physically.
Unless of course she's one of those women that sees pregnancy as a disease/inconvenience. I once saw a community blog post by a woman who'd just had her THIRD abortion after a night of drunken, unprotected sex with her husband. She couldn't even bat an eyelash at this it was just so inconceivable that she'd just killed a third baby. Nope, just a clump of cells to her.

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

It just shows that women have an emotional attachment to that clump of cells.

I am sure you didn't suffer deep depression for years over a stuffed animal or some other inanimate object!

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Denial can be a strong thing. You can talk yourself into just about any idea. That doesn't make it true.

[rivetspoon.livejournal.com]

That goes both ways, though. Just because you want that clump of cells to be a life, that doesn't make it so.
(Keep in mind that I'm just as pro-life as you)

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

Oh, I know you're right. It was just an observation.

[ladylynx.livejournal.com]

Their typical mindset is that it is we conservatives that cause women to feel regret and trauma, by reminding the women that they're destroying a life.

See, if we help them stay in denial, we're good people. If we tell the women to keep the child, we're evil.

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

Ah, so that's the mentality!

Denial must be a common theme in so many liberal views. Stems from the old "Everyone has their own truth" nonsense.

After all, if you believe something, that makes it true!

[ladylynx.livejournal.com]

Unless you're a conservative. Then you're a white male with privilege, even if you're a black woman with no money. :P

[mosinging1986.livejournal.com]

Yep, that's about it. Sigh...

[rivetspoon.livejournal.com]

You analyzed it much more sophisticatedly than I :D

[ladyofavalon77.livejournal.com]

So agree with you here. I know a number of women that regretted it and felt they had killed someone when it was over. People really need to go over with the woman what they are doing when they decide to have an abortion instead of just put them straight on through without another thought for the other options out there :)

[lazypadawan.livejournal.com]

I had a friend in college who told me she used to be very pro-choice, so when a friend of hers was pregnant and wanted to have an abortion, she cheerfully volunteered to bring this person to the abortuary and provide moral support. She said it was the worst experience of her life. She had to sit around in a room full of crying women and her own friend was a mess afterwards. She said after that, she became pro-life. As she put it, "You wouldn't wish an abortion on your worst enemy."

[ladyrogue79.livejournal.com]

And that's it in a nutshell. So many pro-choicers have never been through this or seen what these women go through. I have a friend who volunteers at her local abortion clinic to help ward off protesters. But she never goes inside the actual clinic area. All my pro-choice friends see is: "She's exercising her right to choose; good for her!" They never actually think what that woman will feel afterwards.

[neemarita.livejournal.com]

Thirty plus years later my mother is still traumatized by her abortions. She thought she was exercising her awesome new rights! Yeah. It makes mesad for her thar her husband d told her to do it or he'd leave her. :(

[kelincihutan.livejournal.com]

There are so many coerced abortions all over the place. Every week, it seems, there's a new story of a man who beat/murdered his girlfriend/wife because she didn't want to abort her child and he wanted her too. I am so sorry to hear that your mother went through a coercive experience. Abortion is never good, but to have someone force you into it... :(

I don't know if she would feel comfortable with this, but if you think there's a real need, has she ever considered looking into Rachel's Vineyard or a similar program? I don't have personal experience with them, but I've never heard a word against them from those who've been through the program.

[athousandsmiles]

I had a friend in college who survived when her mother aborted her. Her father raised her by himself. I always wonder how the mother must feel after all these years, to have a living reminder of what she did to her own child.

[kharmii.livejournal.com]

I've been hearing a lot of stories about people who survived abortions. While a happy ending, it gives me the chills because ... how late term are people getting these abortions?

[athousandsmiles]

I remember she often referred to herself as a "preemie," but I don't recall if she said how late term the abortion was. This would've been in the late 60's, so it was illegal regardless.