[identity profile] acadecalli.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] therightfangirl
As an officer at my university's College Republicans chapter, this type of story almost makes me nauseous. A professor at the University of Iowa responded to a mass email sent out by the CRs with an email that simply said "F*%$ you, Republicans." This is someone who is paid by the tax payers of Iowa and probably has had conservative students at one time or another.

Here is the full story:
http://theiowarepublican.com/home/2011/04/20/university-of-iowa-professor-tells-college-republicans-to-%E2%80%9Cf%E2%80%9D-off/

I find her "apologies" even MORE insulting than her initial statement. Thoughts?

Date: 2011-04-20 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
funny, most universities i know have such language as grounds for dismissal. what do you bet she would be out on her ear if it had been a "approved LIBERAL email" she responded to that way.

Date: 2011-04-20 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaolin.livejournal.com
Oh, a Women's/Gender Studies professor. That explains a lot.

I don't have much of anything else to say, but I freaking LOVE that the College Republicans are going to have an "Animal Rights BBQ" and that the professor's offended by that. (Though I guess she's just kind of grasping at straws at that point in that particular fauxpology email reply.)

Ohhhhh nooooo, the College Republican called the professor by her first name. Somebody call the cops.

Date: 2011-04-21 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizbeth-mairead.livejournal.com
>>Oh, a Women's/Gender Studies professor. That explains a lot.

That was my reaction too.

Date: 2011-04-20 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-weezing.livejournal.com
Just the kind of thoughtful insight I'd expect from the average leftist college professor.

Oh, no, I didn't! Heh.

Date: 2011-04-20 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com
Ugh.

Her "apology" is the one that kills me about the whole thing. Not that she sent this back to them (professionalism yay!), but that she replied with "apologize for any affront to anyone’s delicate sensibilities".

Delicate sensibilities. So we're being sensitive to her obvious correctness by being offended when she screams obscenities at us. Right. Sure. Uh-huh.

Date: 2011-04-21 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldblossom.livejournal.com
This.

Her apologies stank of the "its not MY fault, its YOUR fault" liberal mentality. Also, I hate those "if I offended anyone" type non-apologies. Either take responsibility for your actions and apologize truly or don't bother. Again, this just ties into the "its never MY fault" thinking, because she lashes out and blames the victims for "inciting" her.

Date: 2011-04-21 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly. This was "I was right, and I'm sorry you have thin skin and were offended by something that was obviously in the right." not "I'm sorry because I did something wrong."

It's our fault for sending out a message, that was completely approved by the college, that they had no idea who it would be sent to outside of the mass list, and somehow that message was personally damaging to her because we did something else that pissed her off, and this message only served to throw it in her face! AND WE DID IT ON PURPOSE, OBVIOUSLY. UGH. So much dislike.

Date: 2011-04-21 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com
man we should all send her a message saying F&%$ YOU Democrat! And then when she makes a big fuss go: oh sorry that you had thin skin

Date: 2012-01-07 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com
See, I don't mind those types of apologies so much as long as they admit it (i.e. say "I'll apologize for any offense caused by my remarks, but I won't apologize for the remarks themselves") and if I think they have no reason to be apologizing, like if they made a legitimate argument or are being blamed for something that wasn't actually their words. For example, Pope Benedict's Regensburg lecture? Not something to apologize for. The remark about Muhammad was not his own, it was a quote.

This, though? Is not a legitimate argument.

Sorry for commenting almost a year later.

Date: 2011-04-20 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oronoda.livejournal.com
That's right aging hippie liberal douche... STICK IT TO THE MAN!

Date: 2011-04-21 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-weezing.livejournal.com
Except that she is THE MAN, so how does that work?

I keep forgetting liberal logic is akin to underpants gnome business logic, to carry your South Park metaphor. Heh.

Date: 2011-04-21 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rightsaidred.livejournal.com
Not surprising. I went to UI myself. Even less surprising that it's coming out of women's studies. UI profs are CLASSY!

Date: 2011-04-21 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com
*giggle*

Sorry, it's just I go to the University of Idaho, and it's pretty much delegated to UI everywhere on campus (there's even a wine made down the road called Ewe Eye) and I had to do a double take, all 'WAIT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS IOWA. SAY IT AIN'T SO!'.

But yeah.

Date: 2011-04-21 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mosinging1986.livejournal.com
Tolerance!

What gets me is that even in today's world of websites, Twitter, video cams and all the rest - where you know nothing you say or do can stay hidden - even then, they cannot help but spew their hatred, even when they know they will be caught and exposed!

Date: 2011-04-21 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darth-eldritch.livejournal.com
I guess it's too much effort to phrase a simple request to be taken off the email list.

Date: 2011-04-21 02:22 am (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
"appropriating the language of the LGBT community"? WHO IS THIS MORON AND HOW DOES SHE OWN WORDS?

Date: 2011-04-21 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com
don't start me on this... apparently you cannot use terms and cultural references that came from underprivileged minorities... like when they ganged up on Palin for using "blood libel", cause only jews can use it! Same goes for using "war paint" in advertisements and references by anyone but native americans... etc. It has the same roots as "only white people can be racist".

Date: 2011-04-23 10:00 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
As a Jew I think Palin actually used the expression "blood libel" perfectly appositely.

Date: 2011-04-24 12:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-21 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moony-blues.livejournal.com
Guess she also would take exception to Pagans using the term "coming out of the broom closet," too.

Oh, wait a second... :p

Date: 2011-04-21 03:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-21 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archerstar.livejournal.com
NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TO USE THE TERM 'COMING OUT'. EVER.

Date: 2011-04-21 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kizmet-42.livejournal.com
I really hope the debutantes of the world rise up against this usurpation of their verbage.

[sigh]

Date: 2011-04-21 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] athousandsmiles
Ha! I snorted for real.

Date: 2011-04-22 01:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-23 10:01 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
WIN, WINNIE McWIN AND SON OF WIN.

Date: 2011-04-23 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
How is she a moron for telling the truth?

Date: 2011-04-23 09:57 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Default)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
No-one OWNS the language. No-one OWNS a word. It's totalitarian to think such a thing, and even worse to try to bully people into compliance of such noxious piffle.

Date: 2011-04-21 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookwrm17.livejournal.com
I find it incredibly ironic that she's offended by the term "conservative coming out week" when her actions demonstrate clearly the very real pressure on young conservatives to stay "in the closet".

Date: 2011-04-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
Still appropriating a term from a much more oppressed and maligned group won't get you any more fans.

Date: 2011-04-23 09:58 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Default)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Hello, trollette? You may believe people are entitled to their own vocabulary. Don't come hawking your stupidity in here.

Date: 2011-04-23 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
For future reference I am a male.

Date: 2011-04-26 03:34 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Now you know what it feels like to not be the default assumption.

Date: 2011-04-27 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
I've known what it feels like to not be the default assumption for a long time now. I just corrected you there because that's pretty much the only thing that will change.

Date: 2011-04-21 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com
Another example of how the education system is being taken over by liberal assholes. You know how the Jihads are gaining their influence? Education. They take over the education institutes and teach entire generations to be suicide bombers, murder people and how to stop obeying the very Qur'an they supposedly teach.

Date: 2011-04-21 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizbeth-mairead.livejournal.com
Did anyone else find the alleged apology disturbing?

She very clearly outlines the contents of the email as "extremely offensive, nearly rising to the level of obscenity." She's not even arguing for herself or her reasons, she's still trying to attack the messages within the original letter! All she wants to do is argue the issues, not the fact that she completely bashed a sect of students. She wants to be able to debate with students-not act like an adult and a "example."

I thought liberals were supposed to be open minded.

"I do apologize for my intemperate language, but the message you all sent out was extremely disturbing and offensive."

Translation: I'm sorry I was stupid enough to leave my university creditials in the email, but I am excused because what you snot-nosed pigs wrote is just WRONG.

Seriously, professors have been fired for so much less than this. How does this woman still have a job at this university? She'd be out on her rear end if I had the power. You can't debase students like this. You should NOT be allowed to preach your ideals (as the woman so clearly does) as radically as you want and then condem others for DARE having an opinion and possessing the skill and advantages to share it with others. I sincerely believe that it's teachers like this who don't teach because they want people to learn, but they teach because they see their podium as a pedestal where they can spout off whatever they want. And because we pay an arm and a leg for that class, we HAVE to sit there and listen to it. It's a total power trip for people like this woman, and it makes me sick because it almost comes to the point where I don't blame people for not wanting to go to college because of this. What's wrong with our educational system are teachers like THIS woman.

/rant

Date: 2011-04-21 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazypadawan.livejournal.com
It's the same as with the douchebags at Wankette; it's not my fault I did those things...you drove me to it!

Whatever happened to, "Please take me off your mailing list, thanks?" Or blocking e-mails you don't want? No, "Dr. Lewin," a wackademic who's probably a less-charming version of Ben Stiller's mom in those Focker movies (given that it's Babs Streisand, that's saying a lot), is an angry '60s red diaper doper baby who feels entitled to spout forth what's always been the bee in her bonnet. Work e-mail is not the place to do it. I'd be in big trouble if I issued the f-bomb at someone who used the mail group to post yet another urban legend debunked years ago on Snopes.com.

Date: 2011-04-21 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papertowns.livejournal.com
Seriously, how can someone be so unprofessional? I'm from Iowa and many of my family members have attended that school. Knowing this makes them much less inclined to give donations back to a university that tolerates something so biased, malicious, and foolish.

Date: 2011-04-22 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karet.livejournal.com
Heidipology!

I mean:

Date: 2011-04-22 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karet.livejournal.com
http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/Heidipology

Date: 2011-04-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
It was completely inappropriate and unprofessional of her I understand the anger with how the event was advertised and the appropriation of certain terms. She also probably played into the college republicans hands because certain parts of the press original e-mail seem to be done purposely to offend liberals.

Date: 2011-04-23 10:03 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
Again, because I SHALL NOT LET GO OF THIS - THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS APPROPRIATING LANGUAGE, WHICH IS THE COMMON GOOD.

Date: 2011-04-24 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com
Again, because I SHALL NOT LET GO OF THIS - THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS APPROPRIATING LANGUAGE, UNLESS LIBERALS DO IT.

fixed it for you. they've ruined so many good words like progress, liberalism, justice... should I continue?

Date: 2011-04-26 03:35 pm (UTC)
ext_1059: (Ronald Reagan 1967)
From: [identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com
TBH, they don't say we aren't allowed to use these words. It's up to us to reclaim them.

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