ext_15884 ([identity profile] hobsonphile.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therightfangirl2005-04-17 07:29 pm

Why is fandom so liberal?

Has anyone here ever seriously pondered this question? Watching the Dragon*Con Sci-Fi listserv periodically spasm in fits of "I'm more liberal/aware/feminist than you are" in reaction to the announcement that Joss Whedon will direct Wonder Woman has reminded me of it- and has made me rather grateful once again that, through shiny leftist goggles, I am a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal channeling the god of war! war! war! regardless of what I might actually say and thus don't have to worry about maintaining an appropriate self-righteousness.

[identity profile] lolitalolita.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
As if a Wonder Woman movie these days will be anything but politically correct...

OT

[identity profile] penfold-x.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! Best.Icon.Ever. Please please please send James an email telling him there's LJ icons of him; I'm sure he'd flip.

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[identity profile] penfold-x.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. Not at all.

Re your actual topic, I know a lot of fans that are conservative. They just tend to be quiet about it. Whether this is by nature or just because the liberal element is so vocal and they don't want to make waves I couldn't say.

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[identity profile] carbonelle.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think its because the spasms of self-righteous horror get so tiresome when we just want to y'know, hang out and enjoy the fandom. I'm on one group where, God forbid anyone should say anything which even by implication seems un-feminist. At least three members will have instant hissy-fits, one of them for paragraphs.

After a while you just shut up for the Good of the Order.

Fortunately, I'm not a liberal so I don't have to get my skirts in a bunch about "chilled" speech.

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[identity profile] izuko.livejournal.com 2005-04-18 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
The simple reason is that conservatives are too busy working and living life to spend all our time screaming and smashing windows. Who's got time to protest when there's a load of steel you need to get down to Newport News so the shipyard can keep putting together the Bush?
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[personal profile] maidenjedi 2005-04-17 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well....

She'll still be dressed all skimpy and she'll still be totally kickass in spite of it. Ten to one, though, that her alter ego is not in a "traditional" female profession.

But otherwise I agree. And with Whedon directing? She'll be Amazon-Buffy.

[identity profile] neytaritook.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Cause Liberals are louder than Conservatives.

[identity profile] kc-anathema.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
'Cause liberals engaged in a "i'm a bigger moonbat than you" are usually attention-seeking teens who have found a comfy place to rebel or college kids who took academia waaay too close to heart and need a place to strut their stuff, thus outshouting the sane liberals who don't need to do a virtual penii size check on aisle 3.

And what's wrong with channeling the god of war? He kicks ass. Literally. ^_^ Drinks Sam Adams, from what I hear, and according to the former Playgirl editor, is awesome in bed.

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[identity profile] kc-anathema.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's becoming the unofficial mascot of this group. ^^

btw, love the deatheater icon.

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[identity profile] izuko.livejournal.com 2005-04-18 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I can't think of a much better one.

[identity profile] sophysduckling.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom = Mostly Teen. Teenagers = Mostly Leftist.

[identity profile] sopdetly.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Also because fandom is heavily involved with "artsy" things: fanfic, fanart, a bit of acting (for LARPing and such). And those areas are generally more liberal, too. After all, we conservative types obviously don't have hearts or souls or stories to tell in one of any number of expressive formats.

Damn. [livejournal.com profile] lemonlye, wish I had your icon right abouts now. ROTFL.

[identity profile] vespurrs.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What a relief that is. Whew! :)

[identity profile] auntiea-33.livejournal.com 2005-04-19 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that KITT in your icon? Cool!!! I loved that show! I saw in a circular from CompUSA that the first season of Knight Rider is available to buy and I had to put down the circular.

I was about 12 when Knight Rider came out. OMG, my childhood is coming back to haunt me!

[identity profile] carbonelle.livejournal.com 2005-04-17 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
D'you think they'll play up the whole Sapphic Amazon-sisters thinggummy? Because I know several fanboys who'd be all over themselves if Whedon did that!

[identity profile] izuko.livejournal.com 2005-04-18 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Hell, it would at least give me -one- reason to go see it. ^o^

[identity profile] nisie.livejournal.com 2005-05-03 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Normalization aspect of things. I was at a wedding of a person who attends DragonCon and we were talking about it at our table. Somebody said "Of course, we're all liberals here." To which I answered, "Nope, some of us are libertarian." And stared at as if I were... well a muggle among them.

And, this is strictly my opinion, but I've noticed DragonCon has a huge pagan side, which is traditional more liberal than the average person of faith. As a Christian (who is more typically sterotyped as conservative), I can attest that growing up, imagination and fantasy wasn't well... embraced. I knew people who would never read Lord of The Rings or the Narnia series because that used magic.

But look for me there- I'll be the one wearing the pin "He's not a gentle lion" when not in costume.