ext_160172 ([identity profile] brendala.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] therightfangirl2012-07-09 10:52 pm

WTF review of 'Brave': EW article says "Girl not wanting arranged marriage=LESBIAN"

A friend of mine pointed me to this article. It's Entertainment Weekly's review of Pixar's Brave. Well, it's not a "review" so much as a manifesto declaring that the main character is a lesbian because....she refused an arranged marriage and disliked wearing gowns that limited her mobility.
I think it's pretty telling that films starring single females who remain single for the entire film are so rare that, the moment a big studio makes one, everyone (including paid professional reviewers) goes nuts and assumes the girl MUST be gay or sexually confused or whatever.




I hate the implication that a girl who doesn't immediately want to date/marry once they hit the proper age must have some deep-rooted issue with her sexuality. Heck, Merida herself never said "I don't want to get married to a man EVER". She just hated the idea of being given out like a carnival prize to some bozo she's never met!

This article reminds me of how Velma from Scooby Doo (one of my favorite fictional characters, btw) has been pegged as a butch lesbian for ages simply because she's "ugly" (translation: she doesn't fit the Barbie mold that 90% of female protagonists fit into) and didn't act like a typical "token girl" character. Even as a kid, I never got why people pegged her as a tomboy (what self respecting "tomboy" would prance about in a red mini-skirt?). Her overall demeanor and behavior was rarely any less feminine than Daphne's. I guess it's because she had non-girl interests like....being smart. :P

While I sympathize with gay folks who want to find a character they can relate to; it still bugs the crap out of me when dumb stereotypes are used to prove that a character is a gay icon (even if their canon has established them as straight).

[identity profile] oronoda.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Word, word, word to everything you said here.

All that article does is reinforce stereotypes.

This kind of reminds me of a rpg I used to run. It was Harry Potter universe focusing on a magic school in Japan. My friend created a character who was an incredible girly-girl. The Played-by was a pretty attractive girl. Yeah, she loved Quidditch but she liked to watch it not play it. And she was a heavily closeted lesbian. In her words, "Sexually, she lives in Narnia and probably, due to cultural reasons, will probably never come out."

One of the players in the game, which earned her much ire, was, "Oh, she can't be a lesbian! She's too girly!" And she wasn't even saying it to be facesious. She said it as if to say, "Lesbians are butch!"

Also, I really wonder if the person who wrote that even noticed Merida looked somewhat interested in the big buff guy or at the end she let the guys try to court her like a normal person.

I'm sick and tired of a portion of feminists ruining good things. I read one review that said, "The fact that the father was accepting of her is false because the movie doesn't take into the consideration the concept of patriarchy." Why, so fathers can't be supportive of their daughters? When my dad said he was so proud of me when I finished up my tour of duty, was he supposed to say get back in the kitchen you dumb floozy?

This constant criticism of female characters has gotten to the point in which I don't want to write female characters because I don't want these types of feminists to destroy it because she doesn't fit this ideal, an ideal that I don't even think these feminists know what it is anymore.

[identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)

This constant criticism of female characters has gotten to the point in which I don't want to write female characters because I don't want these types of feminists to destroy it because she doesn't fit this ideal, an ideal that I don't even think these feminists know what it is anymore.


Feminism has reached a point where a lot of female characters are contradictory. It demands that we create ~*~Strong Female Characters~*~, who are strong and perfect and can do no wrong, even when the characters in question are being jerks to their boyfriend/husband/etc. At the same time, however, we are required to only see women as Helpless Victims That Things Simply Happen To, rather than characters responsible for their own actions. If something bad happens to the character that could have been avoided had she used better judgement, you better not comment on it, otherwise you're "victim blaming".

[identity profile] neverfading.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)

I'm tired of 95-pound female cops and soldiers who win physical fights with big, thuggish attackers on TV.

That actually sends a rather dangerous message.

[identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd have to agree. It's not degrading to women to say that there are some fights that they just can't win. Realistically, a 95-pound-woman is unlikely to win a fight against anyone, let alone a 200-pound thug. Besides, if she's a soldier or a cop, she should have something on her that will make the guy go down much easier than her fists.

"God made man and woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal"
Edited 2012-07-10 22:29 (UTC)

[identity profile] jacobs-muse.livejournal.com 2012-07-11 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Just a note - This is why small women train in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu - you don't punch and kick, you manipulate joints or wrap around their neck for a choke to put them to sleep. I'm 5'2 and tiny and I can spar with my nearly 300lb boyfriend.

[identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com 2012-07-14 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually heard that Brazilian martial arts are pretty useful.

Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of the women in the media actually train in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. They just rely on "grrl power".

[identity profile] neverfading.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS THIS THIS.

[identity profile] kataoi.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember she saw the big muscle guy, who then stepped away to reveal the real son of...someone. I forgot which Lord it was. But I do remember Merida being like "oh okay this might not be so bad". Actually, I'm glad they got rid of the romance subplot, because in a short movie like that, you can't afford to waste time on things you don't need did somebody say LEGEND OF KORRA?! okay no let's not bring this up here.
Edited 2012-07-10 20:23 (UTC)

[identity profile] animenutcase.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I wasn't all that interested in Brave until I read that it was going to focus on the relationship between Merida and her mother. I believe it was Dingwall's son, if I recall. And I actually liked the fact that while it was clear Merida wasn't interested in the guys and didn't want to be forced to marry any of them, it didn't mean that the sons were terrible people.