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coldblossom.livejournal.comSo have y'all heard that now here in Arizona we're working to pass a bill to essentially force illegal immigrants who have citizen children (referrered to henceforth as "anchor babies") to take their kids with them when they're deported?
I have seen where HotAir and some other places are making a big deal of it, saying its sounds "nasty" and whatnot, but I disagree. Its not the USA or its laws that are "breaking up" families. It is the families who choose to come here illegally and who choose to leave their children behind that are choosing to break up their own families. The citizen-children can return to the country when they are 18 if they wish, though I can wonder at how safe it would be for our long-term health as a nation to have people who are essentially foreign nationals coming to the USA without being educated in our civics, etc and voting in our elections because they were born here.
Personal story: my mother in law is a critical delivery nurse at a large hospital here in Phoenix. She told me once of an illegal immigrant who came with a pregnancy that was, by their guidelines, not viable and I guess the advice as I remember it was to allow the pregnancy to terminate naturally as it would have done sad though it may have been. Yet the woman fought and the hospital aquiesed to working to save the child. The woman required a helicopter flight to Tucson for ongoing care during the pregnancy and the child was guaranteed to be born disabled. The state will have to support the disabled child and its mother. For anyone who has a family member who is on constant medical support you know how expensive this is. Imagine things like this on a massive scale, not just in Arizona but in the rest of the country. And currently our policies encourage this behavior.
The arguments for are largely economic: we can't afford the strain they put on our resources, period, and the strain of the children themselves is multiplied by the number of family members who stay behind with the child. Further, there is the argument that, for the sake of national security, we shouldn't be granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens whose loyalties may not be with the USA (of course, we know there are plenty of born and raised Americans who have no loyalty to the USA but that is something we really can't do anything about) and who would take advantage of citizenship priviledges to perhaps do our country harm. Finally, we are a nation of laws that we should be enforcing. Illegals who are discovered should be deported - if they leave their citizen-children behind, that is ultimately their decision.
The arguments against this law are entirely emotional, in my opinion. Its very much "don't break up the families! the babies are innocent!" etc etc. Its funny, because I don't hear anyone making that argument when an American is caught say, robbing a 7/11 and gets hauled off to jail. Does he get his jail-time dismissed if he has children? Because if Daddy is in jail and his wife and kids aren't, isn't that "breaking up the family?" Why don't all criminals get to have an "out" if they have kids? Why do illegal immigrants get a category all their own where they can say "you can't break up my family even though I broke your laws"?
So, I am in favor. I am also in favor of amending the Constutition to provide that citizens can only be born of U.S. citizen parents (at least 1) and/or persons legally residing in the United States. I mean, we don't have to be super-strict (like say, Japan) but we should be protecting ourselves from exploitation which is exactly what is being done on a massive scale.
I have seen where HotAir and some other places are making a big deal of it, saying its sounds "nasty" and whatnot, but I disagree. Its not the USA or its laws that are "breaking up" families. It is the families who choose to come here illegally and who choose to leave their children behind that are choosing to break up their own families. The citizen-children can return to the country when they are 18 if they wish, though I can wonder at how safe it would be for our long-term health as a nation to have people who are essentially foreign nationals coming to the USA without being educated in our civics, etc and voting in our elections because they were born here.
Personal story: my mother in law is a critical delivery nurse at a large hospital here in Phoenix. She told me once of an illegal immigrant who came with a pregnancy that was, by their guidelines, not viable and I guess the advice as I remember it was to allow the pregnancy to terminate naturally as it would have done sad though it may have been. Yet the woman fought and the hospital aquiesed to working to save the child. The woman required a helicopter flight to Tucson for ongoing care during the pregnancy and the child was guaranteed to be born disabled. The state will have to support the disabled child and its mother. For anyone who has a family member who is on constant medical support you know how expensive this is. Imagine things like this on a massive scale, not just in Arizona but in the rest of the country. And currently our policies encourage this behavior.
The arguments for are largely economic: we can't afford the strain they put on our resources, period, and the strain of the children themselves is multiplied by the number of family members who stay behind with the child. Further, there is the argument that, for the sake of national security, we shouldn't be granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens whose loyalties may not be with the USA (of course, we know there are plenty of born and raised Americans who have no loyalty to the USA but that is something we really can't do anything about) and who would take advantage of citizenship priviledges to perhaps do our country harm. Finally, we are a nation of laws that we should be enforcing. Illegals who are discovered should be deported - if they leave their citizen-children behind, that is ultimately their decision.
The arguments against this law are entirely emotional, in my opinion. Its very much "don't break up the families! the babies are innocent!" etc etc. Its funny, because I don't hear anyone making that argument when an American is caught say, robbing a 7/11 and gets hauled off to jail. Does he get his jail-time dismissed if he has children? Because if Daddy is in jail and his wife and kids aren't, isn't that "breaking up the family?" Why don't all criminals get to have an "out" if they have kids? Why do illegal immigrants get a category all their own where they can say "you can't break up my family even though I broke your laws"?
So, I am in favor. I am also in favor of amending the Constutition to provide that citizens can only be born of U.S. citizen parents (at least 1) and/or persons legally residing in the United States. I mean, we don't have to be super-strict (like say, Japan) but we should be protecting ourselves from exploitation which is exactly what is being done on a massive scale.
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